out of Cairns in radar/transponder controlled airspace 2 aircraft flew into hillsides
One aircraft was VFR and flew up the wrong valley apparently avoiding weather - IFR charts were found in the wreckage, but no VFR charts. The other was IFR category, planned at a level above lsalt, but when airborne asked for a visual level, but nevertheless flew into cloud and then into Thornton's Peak which was in Class G and outside Approach terminal airspace. In both cases, terrain avoidance was a pilot responsibility. Pilot's don't like controllers getting into the cockpit, the same as controllers don't like pilots trying to take over air traffic control.