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Old 9th Jul 2015, 21:45
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KenV
 
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So basically the whole JSF concept is wrong if not supported with F22's and/or Typhoons as it in itself is no Air Dominance fighter, we're basically buying an A iso an F35.
The F-35 is a big "A" and a little "F" fighter. If it has to go up against big F fighters to do its job, it should probably have a stealthy big F escort fighter go along.

Or you have such fiduction in Stealth + sensor fusion that you don't need the AD fighter support in which case the F35 concept is wrong again as it could just as well have been a stealthified GULFSTREAM with an even better intenal weaponsload, lower IR profile, quieter, more economical and carrying an even more elaborate sensor package.
If you really believe that fantasy, you're welcome to try and sell it to anyone who will listen. I'll wager you will get few takers.

Both of these option where not what was originally sold to both the US and its partners.
You appear to be clueless about "what was originally sold to both the US and its partners."

There are those that say that the RAFALE and lately also the TYPHOON are exactly that, both sublime attackers and fighters with sensor fusion and advanced latest gen weapons (METEOR,BRIMSTONE,....).
Indeed, just as there are those who say an F-35 is inferior to a Stealthified Gulfstream. But folks like that have little credibility. And by the way, for a "sublime attacker" to survive a near peer fight on the first day of war, it pretty much has to have stealth. Good luck stealthifying Typhoon and Rafale.

But they get their ideas from somewhere and someone (LM in case of the JSF) certainly put them on track for said stupidity, enough blame to go around.
You're clearly clueless about JSF history. The government came up with the idea and got five contractor teams to submit proposals for their idea. LM did not sell them on the idea. The government demanded contractors come up with ways to build their idea.

They might not like it before but LM sure likes their position now.
So, you're conceding that the contractors, including LM, did not like this "winner take all" project foisted on them by the government?

And does LM really "like" where they are now? LM are masochists who enjoy getting raked over the coals trying to deliver a very very ambitious product, using a very ambitious process, on a very ambitious schedule? If you say so.
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