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Old 21st June 2003 | 07:59
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Requirements for licensed A/D (SEP/MEP Training)

Interestingly enough I have spoken to one or two instructors who seem to think that you do not need a licensed a/d for touch-and-goes for instructing and that merely starting/ending at a licensed a/d is satisfactory.

[Edit - Where I say licensed a/d, I mean licensed / Government a/d]

Well, having seached the ANO to find where this is written as acceptable I find in article 101 that it is not. the wording is....

Aerodromes – public transport of passengers and instruction in flying
101 (1) An aircraft to which this paragraph applies shall not take off or land at a place in the
United Kingdom other than:
(a) an aerodrome licensed under this Order for the take-off and landing of such
aircraft; or
(b) a Government aerodrome, or an aerodrome owned or managed by the CAA,
notified as available for the take-off and landing of such aircraft, or in respect of
which the person in charge of the aerodrome has given his permission for the
particular aircraft to take off or land as the case may be;
and in accordance with any conditions subject to which the aerodrome may have
been licensed or notified, or subject to which such permission may have been given.
(2) Subject to paragraph (3), paragraph (1) applies to:
(a) aeroplanes of which the maximum total weight authorised exceeds 2730 kg and
which are flying:
(i) for the purpose of the public transport of passengers;
(ii) for the purpose of instruction in flying given to any person for the purpose
of becoming qualified for the grant of a pilot’s licence or the inclusion of an
aircraft rating, a night rating or a night qualification in a licence; or
(iii) for the purpose of carrying out flying tests in respect of the grant of a pilot’s
licence or the inclusion of an aircraft rating or a night rating in a licence;
Thats is unless one or two instructors seem to think touch & goes dont count as take-offs and landings

Which now begs the question....how on earth can a flying school (RF) operating from an unlicensed A/D training for SEP/MEP training possibly operate? And how the hell do they justfiy the enhanced costs and time of transit on each flight to the paying customer - or are these flying schools actually operating illegally by training on the transit flight?

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