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Old 1st June 2015 | 20:47
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Flyingfool77
 
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I understand the ops specs and how to use it. I'm not talking about higher than standard. I'm talking about looking to see if the airport has standard takeoff mins. If it does, (including standard with a climb grade) then I don't need to look at the chart and use my ops specs. The chart can say whatever it wants but after seeing a standard takeoff, I don't look at it any more and use my ops specs.

It's just like using ops specs for alternates. So long as it isn't NA we use our ops specs to come up with alternate weather requirements. We don't use the 800-2 and so on.

So I'm trying to make a point with people and show them they need to know, understand and use our ops specs not the charts. We shouldn't have people some people NOT taking off when others will. The information on the 10-9 of a jepp is provided by jepp and not controlling with the ops specs.

I'm looking for an airport that has standard takeoff mins and meets the requirements per the ops specs of maybe 5/5/5 takeoff but the jepp 10-9 has something higher.

I guess I'm looking for something like maybe an airport that just installed centerline lights and now everything meets the ops spec requirments for a 5/5/5 takeoff but the chart hasn't been updated.

Does this make sense? I'm trying to find an example and use it in training. im sure there is a chart with the lowest being 1000/1000/1000 or 1200/1200/1000 but has as the requiremts at the airport to meet a ops spec t/o of 500/500/500.

Another example of this is the 1800 rvr requiremt for landing. If you have the ops spec that allows an 1800 rvr landing with AP/FD/HUD and the chart has 1800 as the lowest, you can use your ops spec and land with 1800 rvr when the touchdown zone lights are inop. Even if the jep chart says tdz lights inop 2400 rvr.

Know and understand your ops specs!
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