Yes thanks Keef - essentially, a JAA version of the FAA/IR would do the trick. I think we're on the same square as I effectively want a Europe wide IMC (beefed up as required). If this proposal idea hits multiple brick walls, as it may do 'cos it almost in my view smacks of.....common sense (eek!), then I will probably follow the same path - but really why should I have to when we should be able to lead the way and improve safety at the same time