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Old 2nd May 2015, 05:23
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I was always led to believe that in percentage terms the Lightning loss rate was greater than the Luftwaffe F104, the big difference was in survival rates where the Lightning was vastly superior.

Re the downward seats, the very early 104s (poss just the initial development a/c) certainly had a downward seat, I recall seeing a cockpit video where the occupant certainly departed through the bottom of the fuselage.
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