Originally Posted by
Trim Stab
Well those USAF pilots who managed to turn a perfectly serviceable C-12 in the cruise at 12000ft into a smoking hole in the ground in Afghanistan about 2009 weren't too hot on automation or hand-flying either. In the space of three minutes they managed to:
1. Select the wrong autopilot mode for climb (VS instead of FLC)
2. Failed to monitor decreasing airspeed and increasing AOA.
3. Failed to apply correct recovery when stall warning sounded (they kept autopilot connected and tried to recover using the autopilot)
4. Failed to apply correct recovery technique when aircraft flicked into a spin (they pulled back on the stick).
The USAF report is available online - you can google for it as well as I can if you are interested to read the full report.
Well
Trim Stab, what a completely fatuous and pathetic argument.. do you think that by quoting one (military) case study then you have proved a point? You are very wrong.
How about AA 965 in Cali in 1995..?? The report is online, as you are so keen to point out. A sad case of automation confusing the
civilian crew, causing the deaths of 189 people with a perfectly serviceable aircraft. I could quote more but won't sink to your pathetic depths. Believe it or not it has happened to both civilian and military pilots and will continue to do so.
Instead of trying to score points by quoting military incidents, why not agree that all pilots from all backgrounds have suffered from mode confusion, it happens but awareness and education can help to to reduce the number of occurrences??