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Old 17th Apr 2015, 05:11
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Can you put a value on finding out the problem/cause that cost an aircraft and lives?
You need to look at the ALARP and SFAIRP if you want to try to answer that.

ALARP - as low as reasonably practicable.

SFAIRP - so far as is reasonably practicable.

The two terms mean pretty much the same thing, and they rely on the concept of “reasonably practicable”, which involves weighing risk against the trouble, time and money needed to control it.

Source: Risk management: ALARP at a glance

The comment that I made was more to the point of “What are the potential safety benefits likely to be gained at this point by continuing the search?”

In other words, is the trouble, time and money being expended on the search likely to provide any significant safety benefit?

It’s not as though there’s all of a sudden a mysterious safety phenomenon that’s started to cause lots of airliners to divert off course for no apparent reason and to disappear without a trace.

So the balance of risk and societal benefit in continuing the investigation of this (so far) one-off event needs to be considered, particularly when you look at the ATSB’s published information regarding the decision ‘…whether to investigate’, and especially in the context of whether there’s any safety value to be gained from continuation of the search in anticipation that it will provide safety actions other than those that have already been suggested.

Level of response
The level of investigation response is determined by resource availability and such factors as detailed below. These factors are presented in no particular order and may, depending on the circumstances, vary in the degree to which they influence the ATSB's decision to investigate and the level of response.
• anticipated safety value of an investigation, including the likelihood of furthering the understanding of the scope and impact of any safety system failures
• likelihood of safety action arising from the investigation, particularly of national or global significance
• existence and extent of fatalities/serious injuries and/or structural damage to transport vehicles/other infrastructure
• obligations or recommendations under international conventions and/or codes
• nature and extent of public, interest, in particular the potential impact on public confidence in the safety of the transport system
• existence of supporting evidence or requirements to conduct a special investigation based on trends
• relevance to an identified and targeted safety program
• the extent of resources available and projected to be available in the event of conflicting priorities
• the risks associated with not investigating including consideration of whether, in the absence of an ATSB investigation, a credible safety investigation by another party is likely
• timeliness of notification
• training benefit for ATSB investigators.
Source: https://www.atsb.gov.au/about_atsb/i...rocedures.aspx

Given that the ATSB would not cough up to go and get Pel Air's Black Boxes why are we now mapping the Indian Ocean?
Good question, nicely put, f***ed if I know
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