Geoffers - yes, immediate UP recovery is most definitely the answer which is why it is practised AP out on every military type I have flown - is that the same for the guys that you get coming through?
We are currently facing a dilemma insofar as AP out training is not allowed in the aircraft because the certification requires one AP to be serviceable at all times. Luckily we can continue to train AP's out in the sim because we are not covered by the same certification and not exposed to any danger.
Unfortunately the 139 sim, with both AP's out, is not a good training vehicle because it's response is not as good as the real aircraft and is far to difficult for most TR students to manage. We stick with a sample of scenarios that may use SAS only or AP's 'IN' and extreme attitudes. In the training environment there is pay-back for building confidence rather than destroying it. We can save the more demanding stuff for the recurrent sessions where they are appropriate.
G.