>>Airbubba, what standards do you have in your country?<<. .. .Well they seem to be a little better than these:. .. .>>Italian duty times of 24 hours with 17 hours flying time (with a three man crew) make this duty legal but would the passengers really fly if they knew what state the guy at the front was in. I seriously frightened myself, I am glad that I am leaving and do not have to do it again.<<. .. .We complain but we are truly fortunate in the U.S. when compared to many other countries in terms of duty times, pay scales, work rules and safety.