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Old 12th June 2003 | 13:54
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Four Seven Eleven
 
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From: Infinity.... and beyond.
Another question, this time about Stage 2A:

The AIP Sup H23/03 says:
ENR 1.1 para 8.2: Replace with:
8.2 Except when radar identified, position reports are required for all
aircraft in classes A, C and D airspace, and for IFR flights or flights
using the IFR Pick-up procedure after initial contact with ATC in
classes E and G airspace.
How does this affect the later provision in AIP which states:

OPERATIONS IN NON-CONTROLLED AIRSPACE
58. POSITION REPORTS
[I}58.1 Position reporting is mandatory when operating under the IFR and
must normally be made at the positions or times notified on the
flight notification (See ENR 1.10 para 3.4 for flight notification requirements).
The AIP sup provision causes confusion because:

1. It is too long and its meaning becomes lost.
2. It is under the heading “Operations in controlled airspace", but makes reference to class G, which appears to be a contradiction.
3. It appears to imply that aircraft use the ‘IFR pick up’ procedure in class G airspace.
4. It now creates a conflict between the (replaced) para 8.2 and the (still-existing) 58.1. Pilots of radar-identified IFR aircraft in class G would be forgiven for not knowing whether position reports are required.

What will be the position reporting requirements for a radar identified aircraft in class G, when Stage 2A is in effect?

If any of the people in charge are monitoring these threads (and I know you have been a regular visitor, Open Mic), is it possible to obtain clarification of these issues, in the interests of broader understanding? Asking the ‘official’ channels is less than useful at times.
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