Thank you again.
While we're at it, maybe you could help solve one more mystery for me. It has been mentioned from time to time that the KLM was given this message from ATC:
"Cleared for Takeoff Position"
I have never come across those words in any transcript before. Have you?
From a previous PPRuNE Tenerife discussion:
I remember that we were told in the ATPL long time ago by an Air Traffic Controller.
Before TFN accident they would say "¨Cleared for Takeoff Position"
After TFN accident it was changed to "Cleared for Runway Position"
then later "Cleared to Line Up"
There was a theory that KLM missed the position part and only heard the "Cleared for Takeoff part.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/2...-1977-a-4.html
If you know what is being referred to here, do let me know.
Thanks