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Old 7th June 2003 | 07:51
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DesiPilot If used properly IMC rating is get out of the trouble (clouds) rating. Which in theory means that a PPL holder has encountered unforcasted weather. Perhaps there was no chance of icing or even chances of going in the clouds, but you are in there anyway.
WTF? Hello!?

1. If the IMC was a get out of trouble ticket the ANO should have been written differently. Read it. It gives you privileges - personally I used them. Its like saying a night qual is a get out of trouble ticket - in case of accidental excursion into night!!

2. Ah. The 'inadvertent IMC' myth perpetuated yet again....there is NO substitute for lookout - and if pilots can actually be bothered to stop w****** over the GPS and look outside they may actually notice the bloody great cloud they are flying at - THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INADVERTENT IMC WHEN FLYING VMC.

Its simple - pilots PURPOSELY fly into cloud. The ONLY - and I mean *only* time inadvertent IMC is possible is @ night. End of story. Lets see....PA28 95kts, C152 90kts cruise - Cloud um...10-25kts cruise - who is in the overtake situation?

Having spent the last 2 days watching a plethor of GA pilots doing friggin stupid things (not my a/c!) I can honestly say perhaps the PPL should be considered a licence to kill????? (especially the twin pilot who tried to stick his pointy bit up my chuff.....and the PA28 pilot who needs to read the rules regarding lookout and rights of way...im sure the airprox now coming his way will do just that...)

Re: Icing checks - they are there for a reason - forecast conditions are different to actual - if the pilot flying in IMC finds the actual conditions different to forecast he may well pick up icing in a single - if he hasnt done the checks he isnt going to spot it.

Re: BUMFICH - I dont teach undercarriage anymore after good quality advice from RAF Central Flying School....I now teach BMFICH....almost as good - pronounced almost the same...works for me.

Re: Ice Checks at Night - Yep. I too encourage pilots to do ice checks every 1000' in the climb and on the end of what I now do...FREDAL checks become FREDALI
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