Strange sort of a circular argument/game where we can arbitrarily discount elements of a business in order to prove viability as a whole. But sure lets play the game..if one only counted aircraft Fr's dublin based aircraft and determined their profitability should we then turn out the lights in their little swords office? Or could it be said that completion on Irish short haul routes is fierce and that consequently margins are slim..to the betterment of the Irish consumer. I'm sure Fr would have love to have done away with Aer Lingus and jack up yields like they do in every other theatre but Aer Lingus has a compelling offering unmatched by Fr although I'm delighted to see them copying the Aer Lingus model now, just a shame they haven't the grace to admit where they got their ideas.