Donkey Duke and Lavdump. .. .I was not suggesting that DD was not making valid points or that everybody should endeavour to use the Queens English, although heaven knows the standard of grammar and spelling (non-native speakers are, of course, excused) would have my late english teacher turning in his grave. My point was that many valid and interesting thoughts are lost in the presentation. So many posts come across as aggressive, patronising, childish or just plain abusive.. .. .Bearing in mind the WORLDWIDE and vast readership of this forum it can be of little suprise that pilots are often viewed in such a poor light.. .. .Whatever has happened to manners and courtesy? On second thoughts don't answer that.