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Old 7th Feb 2015, 20:46
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gazumped
 
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Lack of basic flying skills

Unfortunately another accident which seems to indicate that basic flying skills are being steadily eroded by lack of hand flying.
For heavens sake all the PF had to do was to adopt a slightly lower nose attitude, put his big flat foot on the rudder to keep it straight, control IAS with fine attitude adjustments, and then very casually call for any relevant checklist.....slowly deliberately, and with cross reference with the other crew.

What did they collectively do? Rushed into action, shut down the wrong engine, and then ...stall and loss of control.

AF447, crew couldn't gand fly an aircraft in the cruise with nil IAS indications. Result ...stall, and loss of control.

Asiana couldn't do a visual approach with an A/T malfunction, result ....stall and loss of control.

Turkish Airlines at Schipol couldn't handle Rad Alt causing A/T to prematurely close, (A/T malfunction).
Result.....stall, and loss of control.

Lion Air crew couldn't even do a bog standard missed approach when blind Freddy on a galloping horse would have done.

We as an industry desperately need to go back to basics, hand fly aircraft more often, teach crew to think, and not just act.

This crew had "all day" to slowly, deliberately respond to a malfunction. The outcome is tragically linked to a basic lack of flying skills.

The assertion by some on this thread that there is a need to "act quickly" in this situation is quite frankly patently wrong. This aircraft was at or above 1000' when the malfunction occurred. There is NEVER a requirement to rush EFATO procedures, and EFATO is typically practiced as a V1 cut. Thus was no V1 cut. I can see no combination of circumstances, (incorrect wiring, unscheduled Hotel Mode, etc etc), that could have made this tragic accident unavoidable.

One poster mentioned QF A380, and stated that QF didn't have the same time pressure. The QF crew had a non standard series of events that most definately did not fit into any checklist, they had to make things up and improvise, because no known failure ever anticipated what happened to them. Had they lost control of the aircraft it would have been "all over red rover".

My sad conclusion is with this latest accident....lack of basic flying skills. We as an industry need to rectify this, and rectify it RFN.
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