ZFT, I wish I had your confidence in out sourced training. I would suggest that if a TRE ripped up a few licenses on a single day, he would at best not be used on the next contract. I am in no way questioning their personal ethics, but there is some protection in an inhouse training department that doesnt have to answer to an accountant. Outsourced trainers don't have that luxury. KA were asked to train HKA TRE's. After failing the first few candidates put forward, KA quickly lost the contract and they simply just went somewhere else and the failures stopped. Coincidence?