MM4 - I wasn't being glib. First has been pretty blunt about the state of the RN Manning challenge, he also taken multiple questions on his latest tours of the dockyards etc about what he's doing about it. Z is a pretty positive chap, and will always accentuate the positives, but there also needs to a recognition that the old way isn't necessary the best way. As an example, the majority of the RN leaves after about 5 years; how on earth have come up with a training system that takes 10+ years to deliver an engineer? Why is it we are so inconsistent with training paths, and where are the silos based? Is there utility in taking a French system for nuclear engineers, where regardless of where you work (SSN, CdG or power station), you are employed by the state, and where we can give you shore drafts with some stability but keeping you current?
There is also something about Leadership, and accepting that we are where we are, but sometimes you just need to 'knife and fork your way through something'. Don't get me wrong, most of the NavSec (and 2SL himself) area probably need to be sacked, but the RN is expanding for the first time since WW2.
What needs to be cut - ruthlessly - is the OF5 buggers muddle, blurring the line between First's clear direction and able/willing sailors who want to crack on and do their jobs. There is far too much consent and evade, 'side-con' and working group-itis at the moment.