I did loads of fighter affil in Germany against all sorts of different jets and in various configurations 1v1,1v2 and some total furballs. One of the best Sqns was the Alpha Jets from Oldenburg (431foxes)but it was one of their prime roles in the CW days.
The hardest thing for the jets was to try and finds us in the first place. Bearing in mind that we were in a pre determined box we invariably had to climb to well above our normal operating heights and put all lights on
This is possibly what the Apache was doing before the fun ......sorry.....training began