sad 2 say, ican vividly remenber bak in the last recession a couple of laid off BA cadets who came round our flying club sniffing for work. They displayed the type of self pity AND arrogance which realy got up the self improvers nose. Seen a lot of BA cadets go thru cranfield and a fair amount of them think that life owes them a living. Fair to say that being given something is rarely as satisfying as have to fight for it.