yeah thanks-i think i may do that. now, i know that langford hall is pretty full at times so, worst case scenario they say 'no' any ideas where i can find a room or something in the area? Prefreably with pilots?? I know they have a notice board at OATS with stuff on there about accomodation (ads and stuff) but not sure whether i should go all the way up there to find nothing available, so if anyone can give me the heads up on that too i'd appreciate it. Thanks again.