I am very sorry to hear of Mick's passing, he was a lovely man. It is also my sad duty to inform those on this forum who were around at the same time of the passing of John Bell. John helped me and many others. As a Sqn Cdr and then Stn Cdr he was always the aviator's friend and kept his sense of humour even at elevated ranks. May you both rest easy at your new squadrons, several cold ones to be hoisted in memory. RIP gentlemen.