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Old 27th Oct 2014, 20:47
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I read these threads with a combination of dread and hope. This one has headed in the dread direction unfortunately.

If the MOD are genuinely using Bowtie type methodologies without a proper numeric or quantified assessment they are being deliberately casual and legally non-compliant (suitable and sufficient risk assessment!).

The risk which the previous posts have struggled with have confused posters. With a fleet the risks which must be assessed are the fleet risks - not the individual crew risks. If you have 40 aircraft then the 40 aircraft need to be protected. Protecting one aircraft makes for a 'lucky' crew or two but does not address the fleet issues.

If potential collisions are occurring - and I'll accept that the category or assessment does make a real difference then this is a pretty poor situation where there is an obvious technical 'fix'. Simple cost benefit takes the cost of the modification versus the cost of life saved - severely modified by the ready availability of a technical solution which could easily be incorporated into standard operations.

For training operations to subject aircraft crew to a real collision risk seems to me utterly appalling. Simple procedures could eliminate it. If you decide to operated aircraft in close proximity under high stress situations as a matter of training realism or something similar then sensible engineered barriers become essential - apart it would seem in the MOD .
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