While all that I see here on the last few posts I agree with, it really is not as simple as that - "Lets lob the ex BA boys cos they have a really fat pension and should be at home with the missus -their time is done". What about, say the Ozzy lads who are in the airline to just make ends meet or, the LA based crew. I would also like to see what CX is doing to their crew - I cannot see them taking a 25-35% ( and that is the optomistic guess) paycut, unyet from what I see they seem to be hurting more than SQ? Rough waters ahead.