Interesting remarks, high level comments. If someone understands PPRuNe not only as bingo entertainment, that's what I like to read and participate in! Compliments gentlemen.. .. .My hobbies concerning profession as IP were facts and personal experience.. .Talking about instructing asian cockpits, I posted before, there are "cultural aspects to be considered." . .. .This does not exclude all those talented fine asian pilots I had the honour to train. But it. .also includes those cockpit aspirants I had to. .cope with, who had a hell of a lot problems to. .just approach an attitude I could accept bearing CRM in mind. Not more, not less.. .. .Dear GrangeGuzzler,. .I'm the gentleman you refer to. Obviously, Viastra didn't need assistance. I respected his views and enjoyed his posts. If he trained asian cockpits too, nice. I just guessed.. .. .Your other arguments are not very convincing for me. You joined pprune in August 2001?. .In this tread you adressed "spiral diver and others" by posting "as has been pointed out on this forum for many times, the so called Delta report is NOT.". .On this rainy day here, I was digging deep into past forums until August 2001. The only one who questioned the Delta audit in two posts where YOU!!!. .In the tread "FAA DOWNGRADES KOREAN CARRIER SAFETY RATING"(18th Aug) you warmly defended KAL management and more strange to me, did the same in the thread "KOREAN PILOTS IN JAIL"(19th Aug) in a situation, our Korean fellows could have used support in their strike. Remember "KAL AND ASIANA"(Sept/01)?. .. .You state, that an ordinary pilot from Delta(without any background) just observed some flights of KAL, wrote something up and passed that on to higher floors.. .Excuse me Sir, I think this is ridiculous: Even if you substract 90 % of this audit, the remaining 10 % are scaring for me. Forget the armrests and 3 other small points.. .Just the opposite, reading the summery of this "deaf and blindfolded Delta audit fool", my nose and all senses smell exactly what he means and wants us to know. Anyone who trained not only in pprune treads but also in reality senses what I refer to.. .. .Why all this digging, discussion and engagement?. .It aims for the ideal cockpit, in which CRM is not only a training item to cope with but assuring safer operation for all. 90 % of the First Officers I had the pleasure to fly with hopefully will do a better job concerning CRM, that I expect and it makes me happy. . .. .Thank you SPAM IN A CAM for posting.. .MATEOSIX, flying Mexicana, do you think I could try to change my dachshound against the stewardess on LH seat on approach? At least he is. .motivated if there is a sausage in the cockpit and will do his best! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .Regards. . . . <small>[ 08 March 2002, 14:20: Message edited by: Captain104 ]</small>