Jetmouse. .. .In your opinion then if someone is capable of getting IR first time and no probs (major) with the flight training, they are going to be less likely to get a job had they done GAPAN and then taken two goes to get the IR and had many problems along the way? . .It seems interesting that people still cling to the myth that you need GAPAN to okay you to fly even if you can handle the training. Surely this must be a cause for concern, it seems that the CPL/IR issued by the CAA is not testing people for what they are going to be doing. You say many people are unsuitable to get jobs but pass the IR then why does the IR not test to a degree that.. .. .IMHO surely the point of the CPL/IR is to make you a commercial pilot - what is the point of the test if people can get through and not then get a job. I can understand that certain faces fit certain places and cultures but is it really fair to say that some with IR's just can't get any job.. .After all I would say that almost half the jobs that are got in this industry are through the old boys network and croneyism. Does it not strike anyone as strange that anything like this in any other industry would have the media throwing a fit and complaining about the 'institutional racism/nepotism/old boys network'. Quite simply any other industry would not allow it to the extent that it happens with the airline recruitment scene.