It's not a bad deal on face value but as usual Qantas has yet to address the real issues. Where the hell is the company going and when does an F/O with 8 to 10000 hours on type be given a career which was the reason they joined Qantas in the first place. A pilot commences their career with the expectation of one day gaining a command. Career progression is stagnant whilst the orange cancer grows. Until there is some direction, history will repeat itself and without the vision of a new type, pay and conditions are conciliatory at best. Rumours as usual flourish at this time. Wow 737s might be doing Singapore returns out of Perth. Bali is being seriously looked at. Back to Jakarta. Said that in 2012 and nothing happened. Fluff to get the troops on side. Perhaps Qantas should just apologise for the contemptuous way they stalled the negotiations for nearly 3 years under the guidance of Oldmeadow Consulting. I am quietly optimistic for the future but my optimism is tainted with the taste of reality. It's not about the dough but about the future.