Partly agree, beagle. Surely personal example and visiting pubs as a family is a key part of learning that Code of Behaviour -rather than a total reliance on inflicting physical punishment. The fact is, in UK, kids are often either barred entirely or confined to a damp back room/car park/outside with the smokers. Perhaps this helps explain why this code isn't learned, and therefore the unpleasant results when they're a bit older.