Pegasus,. .. .Flight deck's are only the most dramatic example of a common phenomenon - in crisis there is a strong tendency for cultural conditioning to overcome self-preservation. There are very sound evolutionary reasons for this, and under pressure we all have a tendency to revert to genetically imprinted behaviours. Without this wars would be impossible, but so would society.. .. .Illustrative case - looking at the Delta-KAL audit elsewhere on this board and the descriptions of FO behaviour therein, there will be strong instinctive reasons for a Korean FO to prefer (unconsciously) death and the survival of family honour than personal survival and family dishonour. It may sound crazy, but there is a mountain of confirming research. And precisely because it is instinctive and unconscious it is not susceptible to 'reasonable' solutions.. .. .This is why it is essential to ground any practice in a supportive culture. Without a culture which supports a particular way of behaving, trained for procedures will always be at risk of breaking down just when they are needed most. . .. .There are problems when the desired workplace culture is in tension with the precepts of the national culture - as seems to be the case in the current subject of discussion. There are strategies that can deal with this - but it requires VERY smart managers in flight ops.