Right chaps managed to format that disk no probs via USB,interestingly plugged it into the USB HD port on the back of me posh new smart telly and it works fine so for about twenty quid for a SATA to USB Enclosure and a owld Hard Disk I can record progs direct from me telly, lot cheaper than buying a dedicated external Hard Disk for the purpose,just a pottering about exercise as I already have a HUMAX HD hard disk recorder that can record two progs in full 1080p simultaniously