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Old 23rd Sep 2014, 13:02
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[QUOTE][moonym20

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You may be missing the point slightly.

For the time being the regulators don't care where a crew lives, where they are based or who they pay their taxes to.

What they do care about is the location of the operator who they work for.

The case of UPS, Fedex, AA etc, these operators are the other side if the Atlantic, their pay checks come from the other side of the Atlantic. It's irrelevant.

However, if you fly a CJ or even a King Air on a non EU reg and the operator is based within the EU and you fly within European Airspace. Then you face a problem.
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With respect your post is a little muddled. You start by stating that the regulators care about the location of the operator which is almost correct. (The legislation actually refers to the residence of the operator). However, you then go on to state in your last paragraph that the base matters.

Sorry, but the base of an aircraft matters not one jot. I have pointed out twice already that the word base (or indeed location) is not a word included in the legislative text. Change the word base for residence of the operator and we are in agreement with each other.

FedEx, AA, UPS etc do operate in Europe. They use FAA licensed pilots to fly N reg airplanes and these pilots may indeed be resident in Europe, and legally so because the OPERATOR is resident outside of the EU. It is the residence of the operator that matters. The residence of the crew, or indeed the base of the aircraft, for the purpose of EU 216/2008, is of absolutely zero significance.*


Please read the text of the legislation. If the UK CAA tell you otherwise get them to state their position in writing.

*Subsequent legislation, not related to crew licensing, is addressing the base of the aircraft but this is a different matter entirely.



Back to the OP's question. Private Jets post is a good source of info. Also, you are correct...to obtain a validation a tail number and letter of request from the operator is required so you will need a job offer first.
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