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Old 9th Sep 2014, 18:30
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Originally Posted by VNAV PATH
The 2 pilots of Habsheim accident were 2 instructors and freshly brewed in Toulouse A320 process. Concierge's job..
Capt. Asseline was indeed senior Captain on AF's A320 programme - not so sure about the FO. But it had nothing to do with "concierges" or training - it had to do with poor planning, oversight and execution. In particular, AF never tried to verify Asseline's proposed flight plan with Airbus - if they had, then it would have become clear that Asseline was proposing a level of risk that Airbus's own test pilots would never allow (they would demonstrate Alpha tech at higher altitudes or perform low-level flypasts, but they would never combine the two, least of all with pax on board). In fact it's unknown if Asseline ever told AF ops exactly what he had in mind.

Originally Posted by tdracer
was it already too late (not enough altitude to recover)
By the time the Captain worked out what had happened (when the PF stated words to the effect of 'I've been at max nose-up for some time now'), it was far too late.

@Winnerhofer - your last post is very dubious. For one thing, Bonin's wife was on the flight, but would have been back in the cabin. The idea of playing "musical chairs" with the flight crew is ludicrous. Bonin had been in the RHS since pushback - no need whatsoever to move his seat. I don't know where to start really...

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