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Old 3rd Sep 2014, 21:01
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CL's crash (Phantom at Abingdon 1988) was IIRC influenced by having to extend upwind at the top of a LL display loop. NMacC's crash was (again IIRC) possibly recoverable in his previous aircraft (Lightning) but not in the Hawk.

Both of these may be relevant after Craven's notes.
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