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Old 1st Sep 2014, 17:59
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HD - Newer RNAV SIDS are slowly creeping in which dodge the protected airspace for the holds. On a MID stopping at 6000' was normal (unless you get to 4000' early so a heading could be issued...). On the newer DOKEN SIDS FL100 or even FL170 is often the first clearance, without a heading which is good for workload (for everybody!)

PS. I've hit DVR at FL80 once. The ATC chap controlling me DID apologise and I could see on the TCAS display multiple reasons why climbing wasn't an option. We got to cruise level of 330 45 mins after departure! (but I have to add thats a long way from normal!)
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