I've been banging away at management for years that we should be allowed sit in a jump seat during pilot SIM sessions just to get an idea of how high their workload is in certain situations. I have to say over the years I have learned a phenomenal amount from sitting down and talking with the folks in the cockpit. I really do think it's a failure on the part of ANSPs and Airlines that commercial pilots and licensed atcos do not train together more often. He'll, we could even link our simulator s together online