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Old 20th Aug 2014, 21:24
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Speed Twelve
 
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Current UK military training for the Tutor is still as Beags, Dan etc have mentioned above. The symptom of an incipient spin is undemanded roll, centralise control column and rudder, leave the throttle, then recover from the resulting UP as required.

There's only the one drill, keeps it simple. Works every time. I agree that in the average Cessna, Piper etc you'd have to be pretty ham-fisted to end-up with undemanded roll in normal civilian flying. I agree the Firefly M used to flick like a good 'un if you pulled through the heavy buffet.

Are visual UP recoveries taught on the PPL or CPL course out of interest?

The Tutor Standard Stall Recovery incidentally doesn't involve the use of rudder either, other than to prevent yaw when selecting full power during the recovery itself and to balance if using aileron to level the wings after the buffet stops.
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