And the mums and dads are along for the ride.....i got my Mum out of Qantas shares ages ago, luckily she is in a position that her investment in Qantas does not really matter here or there. Having said that, there are many many Mum and Dads that their investment does matter, and I cannot believe that they sit at every AGM, watch their share price collapse and vote that the CEO gets paid another 3 million. Something is very very very wrong, the whole thing stinks to high hell.