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Old 14th Aug 2014, 02:52
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TIMA9X
 
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sad as we watch these cl@wns mismanage this whole sorry saga.

And a government, regulator and major shareholders sitting eerily quiet whilst the business sinks.
Clipped,

Also very sad for me to watch as I have spent near 40 years flying Q as my preferred airline.. still do and it's a good product even by today's standards.

Clifford & Joyce have simply added unnecessary pressure on the staff by following the wrong strategy and then refusing to admit it, the two brand thing has damaged the business, for me, no doubt about that, they have spent far too much time chasing dreams taking their eye off the ball with the progress of the core business.

“The very fact that Jetstar Hong Kong and Jetstar Australia have linked their two businesses by leveraging the setting up of Jetstar Hong Kong with traffic rights in Australia seems to make it pretty clear that Jetstar’s principal place of business is not Hong Kong, but Australia,” Mr Slosar told analysts on Wednesday.


“By default I think they have made the case that we would make that it doesn’t comply with the Basic Law.”
Comment is being sought from Jetstar.
Again I post this graph as backup to my argument...



In 2008:
Aircraft
Qantas 174 (excluding Cobham)
Jetstar 36
By 2013:
Qantas 189 (excluding Cobham)
Jetstar 86
Now:
Qantas 157 121 (plus 36 ish from Qantas link)
Jetstar 115
It appears the more aircraft added to Jetstar the harder it has been to support and the profit fell away for all of the Qantas group over time.

It's obvious that all Clifford knew was to apply his out dated "thuggish" mining industry know how, a leftover from the 1990s IR war on staff costs, as if it's all their fault, never a good strategy with a "service orientated industry," it demoralises the front-line workers, simple as that, the evidence for all to see since he commenced his tenure. AJ is only a puppet to the board in my view, and to his credit, did well setting up Jetstar domestic. He was never the "right face" for the Qantas group, it simply just didn't fit, but we are stuck with it! Once he pulled off the "grounding stunt" enter the government at the time (Gillard's lot) who "huffed and puffed" but did nothing for the Qantas workers except stitch them up with their FWA lawyer mates, Labor's own legislation reform, the answer to the Liberals big bad idea "work choices" a scare campaign that helped Labor into power.



Albo shifty as usual...



in this one about 1.50 in, Abbott says we have a problem, also shifty...(hmm lip service)

In hindsight, what's the difference?

The problem today, is we have the Liberal Government who accepted donations from the likes of Mr Clifford and other people of this type, so we just carry on. It's as if both parties don't give a damn about Aussie jobs..

Lachlan Murdoch, media buyer Harold Mitchell, and Qantas chairman Leigh Clifford donated to the Liberals. Prime Media chairman Paul Ramsay donated individually and through Ramsay Health Care.
Both major political parties appear to always prefer upgrades or nice lounges etc for themselves and family rather than worry about job security for Australian workers, the people they are supposed to represent, and the major reason why I fight on, you have done nothing wrong.... I am disgusted with both major political parties, they are both the same.... easily bribed by big business, this is Australia now.. no pride in anything Australian, with the exception of Nick X who has gone out of his way to support Qantas workers all along the way... Kudos to him!



As far as I know, Joyce never answered the questions properly put on notice, fobbed off... more on that later...



Just look at the last couple of weeks... DJs goes to the South Africans
DJ's duds to be junked: Woolworths

And another Aussie icon will go in due course as well.. all in the name of "free trade" of course.... code for selling the farm to line the pockets of a few!

Wolf Blass and Penfolds wine maker targeted by second private equity buyer

Wolf Blass and Penfolds wine maker targeted by second private equity buyer | Business | The Guardian
All the way down to street level today, it's hard to find a positive comment regarding the management of Qantas (I guess why Livi is trying to change that with her social angels) they have done so much damage to the brand, to a point where this damage will only recover with a change of management from the board down in my view. As I have said before "Corporate Australia Is Sick," but allowed to bumble along provided Canberra is well looked after come donation time... that's what is really sad...

remember this back in 2011, it was all said then in a song...



I guess I am just a cry in the corporate/political wilderness..

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