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Old 10th May 2003, 01:39
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Wino
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Firefly,

As an American Airlines A300-605r pilot. I can tell you for certain that use of rudder was never advocated except as a last resort as the aircraft was getting away from you in a real serious upset. in other words, don't ignore the rudder if its all you have left. There were VERY long discussions of the effect of rudder, and what enourmous roll rate you could develope with it, especially at high angles of attack. How it related to crossover speed was really driven home. This was really aimed at the 737s community becuase of the rudder hard over problems.

No one EVER argued for a back and forth motion of the rudders, and on any other aircraft it never would have happened. But on the A300 some changes were made when they converted it to the 600 series that laid a trap.

NOD,

Outboard ailerons were deleted when the A300b4 became the A300600 series. Also, spoilers became "spoiler by wire" and most importantly the rudder load limiter was changed from a ratio changer system like the Boeings where 4 inches of travel always equalled full available rudder (be it 4 degrees at high speed or 40 degrees at low speed) to a fixed ratio changer where a jack screw simply restricts rudder PEDAL movement, rather than the movement of the rudder.

Notso,

Furthermore in a peculiarity of the system force required to reach the available stop decreases as the speed inceases untill it is virtually identical to breakout force. On the A300-605R there is NO rudder feel mechanism. The controll forces are NOT balanced and the stops get EASIER to reach as speed increases.

BTW, it gets alot smaller than 1 inch at barberpole. (it goes down to about .7 inches of travel at Vmo/Mmo


NOD again,

The bucharest crash was specifically cited in the AA maneuvering program. the Auto pilot was NOT engaged. The pilot flying the aircraft try to correct the asymetric engine condition with only ailerons, and not terribly aggressive movements of that. Airplane rolled over, all killed.

The Airbus single engine climb and crash on autopilot was the A330 during the test program that crashed killing all while trying to demonstrate a single engine go around on autopilot.

Cheers
Wino
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