Yes Oceanic but it seems that
Qantas think they know better.
My earlier post alludes to a major concern evident in many carriers run primarily on "affordable safety", as does this link below, for the benefit of Cockney Steve also:
"(MAS's) apparent ignorance of everyday operational consideration of safety planning is breathtaking."
I don't have immediate answers but just hope we learn from past areas of dereliction and prevent from happening again.
One thing we do know is that these guided missiles capable of >60,000+ feet are now out there... and in the hands of wallies, who knows.
Happy landings