I think most blokes are willing to put in a fight and make sacrifices when it comes to things that will make a difference. If going to the 8hr is all the ammo we've got, it must be time to put the pistol in its holster for a while. I knew to be worried when The Masked Goat Rider came out of retirement. There is nothing that is going to get anyone in the detention centre their jobs back. Most of them know it and are only sitting out the 12 weeks to get the shift penalties. Harsh but true and we all know it.