Fell off my chair laughing at you glendalegoon. You've got it all wrong. I was not suggesting for one second that FD crews should trust ATC blindly, just the same as we don't blindly trust what FD crews tell us. I was referring to the curt generalisation of "that of someone drinking a cup of tea, safe in their tower a few 100 metres away". That's just disrespectful to the majority of highly professional and efficient ATCOs who do a great job, often under difficult conditions. Of course pilots never screw up. Oh, wait a minute, I believe the ARG A340 was instructed to cross behind the landing B767 and they even acknowledged it!