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Old 6th Jul 2014, 15:02
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What I was driving at was that CAS in his letter to SoS in 2011 said it was not ALARP, so what was going on internally in the RAF? Was AOC 1Gp being "asked" to declare it ALARP whilst the fight went on at higher level to get CWS? Did AOC 1GP and CAS at the time disagree? Since there are numerous other examples of individuals being basically ordered to lie, was that the case? As far as I understand it, the case history seems to indicate an individual is obliged to lie if ordered to do so. Maybe CAS decided 2008 wasn't the right time to pick the 'not ALARP' fight, and 2011 was? Maybe it was because of different CAS/AOC 1 Gp

Hands up everyone who's been asked to lie officially whilst something was fixed behind the scenes? Ah, that will be all of us then.

Edit: Stu Atha was AOC 1GP after 2011 I believe
AOC 1 Gp during the period most in question was
2007–2009 Air Vice-Marshal C N Harper
2009-2011 Air Vice-Marshal G J Bagwell
2011- Air Vice-Marshal S Atha

I was acquainted with Greg Bagwell. Seemed like a straight-up and talented guy. Ditto Stu Atha.

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