Captplaystation.... It used to be BA guys, now they are able to work until 65. The KLM pilots have an issue, I think that they are retired at 57 now, could be wrong. Some of those Guys want to continue working until they are 65, which they are entitled to do. I would think that they really need to take that up with KLM management. However terms and conditions are not dictated as a result of these guys wishing to prolong their career. Our poor T & C's come from our ineptitude regarding collective bargaining. We hold all the cards, sit the aeroplanes on the ground... they pay more...