Just an observation on the ethics of discussion and respecting the views of others ( and we all can fall in to the trap when it gets heated, so don't take this personally Jondc9) :
re: Censorship on PPRUNE?
Jondc9 On PPruNe 27 Oct 2006
"There is no single absolute authority for what we write about and no one must censor another persons views."
re: The Wright brothers just glided in 1903. They flew in 1908
Jondc9 On PPruNe 12 June 2014
"mods, do what you like. but if you are pilots , shut down this thread"