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Old 12th Jun 2014, 07:08
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Here's a thought??

Maybe the 'Fluff & bull****e' ATR prelim report (tabloid pg 2 article) is pitched for the man at the back of the room to get a handle on, it certainly seems to have helped with the (always behind) MMSM...:
Damaged Virgin Australia plane flew 13 times, says safety report

A VIRGIN Australia plane flew 13 times with structural damage following a turbulence event on approach to Sydney, a preliminary report has found.

An initial investigation by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) found damage “consistent with an overstress condition’’ was likely to have occurred on February 20 as the plane made its approach to Sydney.

While the 68 passenger ATR 72 turboprop was initially removed from service and an inspection carried out, it was back in the air the next day.
It was not until five days later, following a suspected bird strike as the plane descended into Albury, that the damage linked to the February 20 event was discovered. By that time, the plane had already flown 13 more times.

According to the ATSB report, it was about 4.40pm on February 20 when, as the aircraft made its approach to Sydney at an altitude of 8500 feet, that “the crew noticed the air speed going up quickly and the speed trend excessively high’’.

The first officer reduced engine power and used touch-control steering to temporarily disconnect the autopilot before manually raising the nose to control the speed.

But the captain was unsure if the first officer’s control inputs were sufficient to avoid an “overspeed’’ and put one of his hands on the controls and disconnected the autopilot to raise the nose further.

“The captain believed he indicated his intention to take over control, and while the first officer could not recall it being verbalised, he was aware of the captain’s actions,’’ the report says.

“The first officer recalled that he took his hands off the controls, releasing touch-control steering in the process. Shortly after, concerned about a high nose-up attitude, the first officer put his hands back on the controls. To both crew members, what happened next was unexpected and unclear.

“Suddenly, the crew felt high positive (G-force), the controls felt different and spongy, and cockpit warnings activated.

“At some point, the cabin crew called the cockpit and advised that the senior cabin crew member had injured her leg and that it might be broken.’’

The inspection on February 25 “found broken carbon plies, cracked joint sealant, and deformation in and around the area where the horizontal stabiliser attaches to the vertical stabiliser’’.

“There was also some minor damage to the rudder,’’ the report says.
The ATSB says its initial examination showed that “differential force on the control column that resulted from the captain and first officer applying an opposing force exceeded the differential force required to generate a pitch disconnect’’.

“Each pilot was then controlling the elevator on their side of the aircraft in opposite directions for a brief period before the first officer released his control column.’’

The ATSB investigation is ongoing.

In a brief statement, Virgin Australia said the safety of guests, crew and aircraft was its No. 1 priority.

“While this is an isolated issue, we are working with the ATSB, the aircraft manufacturer and our maintenance provider to identify what has occurred,’’ the airline said.
See the Oz almost perfectly regurgitates the original bureau tabloid, why?? Because it is well censored (PC'd) and appeals to the average punter without giving them nightmares. Not to mention it is perfect for the lazy journalist to copy and paste, flick off and get back to the bar..job done!


{Poor old Oz were forced to publish that prior to midnight when SC puts out the rest of his ****e, notice there is no journo staking a claim to that article..please..please RM bring back AK}

On the other hand the Oz aviation mag is pitching to more of a captive audience. Here is their brief, less sensational, summary of the story:ATSB reports on Virgin Australia ATR structural damage

See less fluff & BS but probably even more politically correct (PC) with no aspersions on any DIPs or on the quality of that lowest of low reports...

This comment at the bottom of the AA report is probably the closest either article goes towards the half dozen hefty elephants in this disgusting tale (so far):
Damian says: June 11, 2014 at 7:30 pm
It does make you wonder what could have ultimately happened had the bird strike/possible bird strike not occurred
Yep does make you wonder Damo old son...

But for really guts and no prisoners commentary you can't go past the comments on Ben's article (that by the way came out < 2hrs of the prelim being released), from HERE.

Hmm..still not much comment on that (IMO) crock of a report {comment: maybe we've all become complacent on the standard of BASR bureau reports these days..}

Although there is a TANGO sidewinder towards the bottom...
Tango Posted June 12, 2014 at 1:48 pm | Permalink


Its all in keeping with the more client friendly CASA and ATSB brief.
We don’t want to upset our customers (and if they kill their customers too bad)
So it all makes sense and if you aren’t flying in the airplane, what the heck (maybe the maintainer should have to accompany the aircraft after they say its fine!)
Like his form..MTF

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