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Old 9th June 2014 | 23:25
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DozyWannabe
 
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Originally Posted by Winnerhofer
AF and DGAC knowingly knew that for the last 25-odd years that training was sub-par.
The warning signs were ignored despite victims being sacrificed at the altar of political expediency.
3 fatal crashes ignored: Habsheim, St Odile and Roissy and many non-fatal disasters...
The fast-tracking of F/As on to the RH-seat due Union pressure over more qualified crew is scandalous as well as unsackable incompetence.
Sorry, but with all due respect those conclusions are drawn too simplistically.

For one thing, the crashes you refer to were all flown by experienced (civil) veteran crews. Additionally, the Mt. St. Odile accident was an Air Inter flight, not AF.

For another, I believe that the only member of the flight crew on AF447 who had come up from being a former FA was F/O Robert - and based on the evidence we have I'm convinced that he was probably the most aware of the flight crew as to what was happening, though, tragically, he seems unaware that was the case, and did not assert himself accordingly.

To be fair, I think there's enough evidence doing the rounds to suggest that at the time of AF447, AF was not a "happy" airline and had not been for some time. Furthermore I make no secret of my opinion that the SNPL union is in many ways - and to put it mildly - misguided.

That said, I think that drawing an inference - as you seem to be - that these events mean that the DGAC is somehow deliberately turning a blind eye is not supported by the evidence. At the very least, the DGAC are by no means the only offenders when it comes to not noticing airlines pushing the boundaries of regulations - the US FAA and their regional airlines' working practices are another infamous example.

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