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Old 3rd Jun 2014, 23:11
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ASRR: Roadmap to recovery

The negative commentary we are seeing on here in regards to the ASRR report for me highlights how toxic the culture in CASA has become under the Skull. IMO that man has wrought more damage in his time than any of the other DAS/CEOs combined, rule 101 divide & conquer. I'm with Ben...Will heads of CASA, ATSB now go?...the angry man & Beaker should be frog marched out of their respective caves immediately...

Comment from Ben's article:
“The Panel considers that the Pel-Air report was an aberration, and not typical of the high standard that the ATSB usually attains.
The Panel recognises that the ATSB is putting measures in place to prevent a re-occurrence”

It occurs to me that there is nothing in the above statements which leads to the conclusion that the Pel-Air crash will be re-investigated.?

As far as I remember, there is also nothing in the terms of reference on the Canadian inquiry which will allow it to recommend a new investigation.
If the CTSB finds that all the relevant paperwork was completed & all the relevant boxes ticked, they must find that the investigation was completed correctly….

Even though without the FDR’s, the ATSB couldn’t possibly have analysed the complete range of information, before arriving at its (possibly incorrect) conclusions.
Comment: Perhaps too much water/ocean....under the bridge??

Although the ASRR report seems to conveniently step around the PelAir debacle, there is an underlying message in the following paragraphs of the Exec summary...

"...The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) has been heavily criticised in Australia for its report into the 2009 ditching of a Pel-Air
Westwind off Norfolk Island1. Canada’s Transportation Safety Board is completing a review of the ATSB and will report shortly. The Panel
considers that the Pel-Air report was an aberration, and not typical of the high standard that the ATSB usually attains. The Panel recognises
that the ATSB is putting measures in place to prevent a reoccurrence. To improve the ATSB’s governance, the Panel recommends that an
additional Commissioner be appointed, with extensive aviation experience.


ICAO requires that countries formulate a State Safety Program (SSP), which Australia has done. The Panel considers that Australia should
develop the SSP as a strategic plan for the aviation safety system, under the leadership of the Aviation Policy Group. To implement this plan,
the Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development should play a stronger policy role in the SSP, providing policy guidance while
respecting the operational independence of CASA, the ATSB, and Airservices..."


Even though the TSBC review appears to be, on the surface, just another tick-a-box routine I still believe it will be pivotal in the grand scheme of things (i.e. the international connection). The ASRR report says as much with the references to Annex 13 & 19, that and the recommendation for an extra commissioner with aviation experience.

What the ASRR report also provides (finally) are the true ToR that the Canucks are working to:
Scope of TSB independent objective peer review of ATSB

Proposed Objectives

To provide the ATSB with an independent objective peer review of its investigation process/ methodology, and of the application of its methodology to at least two selected occurrences (including the Norfolk Island occurrence).

To identify best practices from both organizations that would be shared to improve existing processes and methodologies.

Proposed Scope of Work

1 — Exclusions
The TSB will not re-investigate the Norfolk Island occurrence and will not provide an ‘investigation report’ specific to this occurrence.
This review will be internal to the TSB and ATSB only. The TSB will not communicate with, or interview, any persons external to the ATSB as part of this review.

2 — Review of the Investigation Methodology

The TSB will collect information and conduct a comparative analysis of the ATSB and TSB investigation methodologies, including the approach for the risk assessment of safety issues. The analysis will also include a comparison the two methodologies to the relevant provisions of Annex 13 to the Chicago Convention. This benchmarking analysis will identify the strengths (best practices) and the weaknesses (gaps) of each methodology.

3 — Application of the Investigation Methodology

The TSB will review the Norfolk Island investigation and at least one other ATSB investigation to assess whether the investigation methodology was properly applied. The review team will ask questions such as: Was the process followed? Were the proper tools, systems and resources in place and effectively used? Was the investigation conducted in a thorough manner? Was all significant information adequately considered and analysed? Were organizational and human factors adequately considered? Would we have done things differently? This review will identify any best practices and any issues or gaps in the application of the existing methodology.

4 — Management and Governance of the Investigation

The TSB will review the Norfolk Island investigation and at least one other ATSB investigation to assess the ATSB’s approach to the management and governance of the investigation process. The review team will ask questions such as: How was the investigation managed? How were key decisions made and by whom? Was there adequate documentation and guidance to support decision-making? Were the key decisions based upon solid factual information and robust analysis? Would we have done things differently? Are there any legislative impediments to the conduct of ATSB investigations? This review will identify any best practices and any issues or gaps in the governance and management of the investigations.

5 — Investigation Report Process

The TSB will review the ATSB investigation report process and how it was applied in the case of the Norfolk Island investigation and at least one other ATSB investigation to assess its effectiveness at achieving the desired outcome. The review team will ask questions such as: Was the process followed? Was the report review conducted in a thorough manner and was it effective? Is the analysis contained in the report complete and thorough? Are the findings and recommendations well supported by facts and robust analysis? Were the comments received from directly involved parties adequately considered and was the disposition of these comments full communicated? Would we have done things differently? This review will identify any best practices and any issues or gaps in the investigation report review process.

6 — External Communications

The TSB will review the ATSB approach to external communications (i.e. vis-à-vis the media, public, stakeholders and politicians) throughout the investigation and report production process, upon the release of the final report, and in the weeks following the report publication to assess its effectiveness at achieving the desired outcome. The review team will ask questions such as: What was the methodology and was the process followed? Was information provided in a proactive manner? Were messages crafted with the anticipated stakeholder reaction in mind? After looking at the business process, the TSB will look into the communications issues specific to Norfolk Island and its aftermath. The review team will ask further questions such as: Was the reaction appropriate in response to the television show Four Corners? Why was the ATSB unable to convince the Senate Committee and possibly the public of the validity of its processes? Would we have done things differently? This review will identify any best practices and any issues or gaps in the external communications process.

7 — Deliverables

The TSB will prepare and submit a detailed written report to the ATSB summarizing the results of its review, its findings and its recommendations. The report will contain the following sections:

  • Introduction
  • Description of the review process and methodology
  • Analysis and findings for each section
  • Review of the Investigation Methodology
  • Application of the Investigation Methodology
  • Management and Governance of the Investigation
  • Investigation Report Process
  • External Communications
  • Conclusion and recommendations
The TSB will provide a draft report to the ATSB for review and comments. The ATSB comments will be considered by the TSB and the report will be finalized.

8 — Independence

The TSB will carry out the work described in the preceding sections in an independent and objective manner. The TSB will be fully responsible for the conduct of the review and for the analysis of the information collected. The final report will present the independent views of the TSB.

In the interest of transparency and accountability, the TSB will make its final report public (i.e. post it on its web site). Advanced notification of the release and advanced copies of the report will be provided to the ATSB. Once the report is public the ATSB will be able to reference the report and disseminate it as it sees fit without any restrictions.

The ATSB will provide full cooperation and access to the necessary files, manuals, policies, procedures, and personnel.
Reading between the lines I think there is enough scope in those ToR to really effect a change to the running of the ATsB and get them back to SR (sensible reason). After all it is not the crew on the coalface who are the problem but the numbnuts in the lofty offices above...
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