Originally Posted by
alf5071h
DW, your view depends on how you define ‘handling’; is this the physical flying skills or the more wider management skills, where awareness (mental activity) should precede action.
Both, really. The handling pilot seems to have instinctively begun pulling up without first assessing the situation, and continued to do so in spite of the resulting zoom-climb and stall. Once the stall warning sounded, it seems to have been disregarded and the nose-up command maintained consistently to impact.
Re CRM, which part, which aspect?
The role of the non-handling pilot in terms of the requirement to assess the actions of the handling pilot, and if they are inappropriate to say so verbally, culminating in taking control of the aircraft if the verbal communication is ignored.
In fact it could arguably go back to the Captain's somewhat sketchy handover to the two F/Os before taking his rest period, as the flight deck gradient was never explicitly stated and confirmed.
The non-handling F/O therefore seems to have been reticent to act decisively and instead defers to the Captain, calling him back from rest. By the time the Captain arrived, a significant amount of time had been lost, and the situation had deteriorated almost to the point of being unrecoverable.