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Old 13th May 2014, 23:13
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Stone_cold
 
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Too much political correctness here . Even if the defenders here wish to deflect all the "insufficient data " given to the crew or the timeliness answer this .

1) does "RNAV equipped means RNAV approach approved ? Not quite the same . Many airlines can be enroute RNAV , hence the ATC filing ,but not RNAV SID,STAR or APPR approved . Responsibility falls in the front end to ask for what you need .
2) do you need more than 5 minutes to re.assess your risk level ? What if the crew were given a 25 knot landing clearance wind check at 500 ' ? Or an aircraft blocked the runway ? You ned ATC to tell you to GO?
3) braking reports , even when given are advisory,
4) many,many regions all around the world do not conform to this "requirement" to assign the into wind runway as active " . Aviation would cease if we couldn't land with tailwinds !
5) Should ATC also tell them when to flare , where to touchdown , To GO AROUND , if you float halfway down a freaking wet runway with a tailwind !!


AA73 ...good job defending your colleagues , but the preferred runway in both Jamaican airports have always been easterly and requested even with tailwinds , even wet ! No incident prior to this .You should watch your airline's " kids of the magenta circle " ! It's no wonder management and manufacturers consider us the weakest link . We are paid and expected to think and make decisions . While you may wish to deflect attention to the "fluff" , no one but the front end forced them to continue with the approach and landing !

We are in no way immune and incidents could happen to each and all , but cease the kindergarten / politically correct stuff . If you are man enough to screw it up , be man enough to accept the consequences .

So it is not about it not happening to any of us , it can . However , if one is responsible , then accept that responsibility , which hopefully the Captain has( at least privately) , because if he hasn't and is satisfied with his union's defence of his actions or lack thereof , then HE has not learned from it .
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